Old 07-22-2013, 10:02 AM   #1
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Sammy had a check up on Friday 7-19, he was one week shy of his
7 month birthday. We took him in to talk to our vet about getting him
neutered. Sammy weighs 3 1/2 lbs, not sure what his adult weight will
be. As of now his surgery date is Aug. 29th. The doctor will pull any
baby teeth, check his tear ducts and check his knees. Before anything
is done he will have blood work done. If anyone can think of anything else
that needs to be asked or done please let me know.

Here are a couple more pictures of Sammy. I will be happy when his
hair under his eyes grow out. I think he will be happy too!!!


Thought this was sweet of him, this is how he sleeps curled up to
his stuffed dog.

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Your Maltese baby boy is beyond darling. Looks as sweet as spun sugar! Spun Sugar glammy Sammy. Cuddling with is stuffed dog- just adorable. Sounds to me like you've got vet Q's about covered. Thanks for sharing Sammy's charms with his rabid fans aboard; his doting pbb aunties. He is precious plus. Yep.
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I move that Sammy be declared Gorgeous and Cute and Snuggly by acclamation..


Any opposed? No? Good!! So ordered: Sammy is Gorgeous and so Cute and Snuggly.
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I second Shawna's wise motion.
Be it hereby declared that Baby Sammy, the sugar sweet Maltese is
the pbb's - Candy Boy.

I shall fetch Sammy's theme song! - (It's something of a Sugar Sprinkle Tiny Tinkle Rock. *G*)

Candy Boy-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KQsFqI4bPc
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lp and Shawna thank you both for your sweet post about Sammy.
We think he is pretty cute too. lp I liked the you tube song you posted,
I put Sammy in my lap so he could hear and he liked it too!!!
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If you look up "unbearably cute" in the dictionary, there is a picture of our Candy Boy.
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He is just TOO CUTE!!!! How do you stand it?
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Just beautiful....I agree,how can you stand it?...too cute.
Re neutering..isn't it best to wait till they are mature before neutering?
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He really is adorable! Love the picture of him sleeping with his stuffie. It sounds as though you have all the bases covered regarding his upcoming neuter.
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Just beautiful....I agree,how can you stand it?...too cute.
Re neutering..isn't it best to wait till they are mature before neutering?
In our contract that we signed with our breeder it says we need to neuter
by 8 months old. Sammy will be 8 months old we he does get neutered.
I have tried finding information on when is the right age to do this but it
seems like there are many opinions on this subject. I just hope that he
will do well when he has this surgery.
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I'm sure he will be fine..he's also a small breed so its less important to wait as long as you can...in Stan's case ,if I neuter he will be over two. I personally would think a year is better for a Maltese,as they mature around a year to 14 m,but as you have the breeders contract then you have no alternative.
the whole neuter info has radically changed in the last few years...I have been reading a lot on it.I respect everyone views on this and would never force my own here.
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I can't help myself, La Bon. I'm fetching another Candy song. "I wish that there were four of him, so I could love much more of him," so the rabid pbb Auntie lyrics go. VBG OK BTW- sounds like a good breeder- re spay/neuter limited contract, etc. I like the four pound by four months notion. Cotton Candy Glammy Sammy will be a hulking four massive pounds- or nearly - by 8 mo. (maybe. LOL)

Maybelle's version of "Candy" - from the R & B hall of fame-
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lp I loved the song and what a cute name you gave
him Cotton Candy Glammy Sammy

I know Sammy is healthy but I will still worry about him
when he has to have his surgery.
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Of course you worry. However, as a fellow hand-wringing worry wort, let us just review the facts. Oh, let's not! LOL Actually, the neuter for liddle toy boys is much less involved than for the goils. And- while some larger breeds are still biz growing into themselves- at a year plus, most toy breeds are fini by a year. Eight months sounds ok to me- in that Glammy Sammy will be a big boy (oh, play along) and do fine. Let's fetch some who-hah various. Although, I'd reckon you've read up and a gracious plenty. Here's some propaganda now. Scroll down to the neutering- it's shorter, because the surgery is shorter and less invasive. But, go right on ahead and worry some, but not a lot. *G* Oh, worry all you want. I always do!!!! In all seriousness-osity, I believe between seven and nine months is just about right for most toy boys, so using that um scientifickle theory; eight will be great! http://www.malteseonly.com/fix.html
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"Traditional practice has been to alter pets when they are six to eight months old, but for sterilization to be effective against random breeding, pets must be neutered before puberty"....


This link is old fashioned in its information,especially for male dogs...The emphasis in the link is to prevent unwanted matings...dogs running off for a female in heat.....etc...
Humping,marking etc do not necessarily change if the male is neutered..this is more of a training issue.
Noone on this board is irresponsible and would allow a male to be used in a mating,nor keep it free in an unfenced garden...
Breeders are constrained to put these conditions onto buyers if they are in an environment where they fear there will be indiscriminate breeding from their stock.This not only results in unwanted pups but can also ruin a breeders reputation and lines.USA is such an environment...and thus your contracts are so severe...however with respect to the puppy as an individual it is not always in their best interests to be spayed at 6 m or less as this link suggests.

Things have so changed..http://saveourdogs.net/category/health/
Summary..
On the positive side, neutering male dogs

eliminates the small risk (probably <1%) of dying from testicular cancer
reduces the risk of non-cancerous prostate disorders
reduces the risk of perianal fistulas
may possibly reduce the risk of diabetes (data inconclusive)
On the negative side, neutering male dogs

if done before maturity, increases the risk of osteosarcoma (bone cancer) by a factor of 3.8; this is a common cancer in medium/large and larger breeds with a poor prognosis
increases the risk of cardiac hemangiosarcoma by a factor of 1.6; this is a common cancer and major cause of death in some breeds
triples the risk of hypothyroidism
increases the risk of geriatric cognitive impairment
triples the risk of obesity, and with it many of the associated health problems
quadruples the small risk (<0.6%) of prostate cancer
doubles the small risk (<1%) of urinary tract cancers
increases the risk of orthopedic disorders
increases the risk of adverse reactions to vaccinations

The new links to modern research actually advocate a male is allowed to reach maturity before it is neutered if at all.Most neutered males grow too tall for their designed structure,putting extra stress on their joints...in the adolescent male the hormones are 7 x the amount at puberty than they will be at maturity and they are the cause of the adolescent bad behaviors...if the dog is allowed to mature these behaviors should settle down and respond to training....if you neuter early these behaviors fix the pup in an adolescent state...
http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com...eutered-right/
The females are spayed after at least one and preferably two seasons ,which cuts the risk of urine incontinence and still prevent pyometriosis.
Now I will post some links as food for thought....
As I say each of us must decide for our own pets and what is best for the dog but we must also be aware that research gives us new food for thought...what is best to prevent random breeding and puppy farming tactics,may not be the best for our pet dogs health(who are never going to breed )
my info is especially aimed at the male...I do advocate spaying a female after the second season...but the male,if not presenting impossible behavior,should be at least allowed to reach maturity befor neutering.if it is possible..

http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongT...uterInDogs.pdf
Long-Term Health Risks and Benefits Associated with Spay / Neuter in Dogs
Laura J. Sanborn, M.S.
May 14, 2007

http://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/pdf...ma.231.11.1665
Determining the optimal age for gonadectomy of dogs and cats,
Margaret V. Root Kustritz, dvm, phd, dact

http://www.cdoca.org/downloads/files...20Behavior.pdf
Non-reproductive Effects of Spaying and Neutering on Behavior in Dogs
Deborah L. Duffy, Ph.D., and James A. Serpell, Ph.D., Center for the Interaction of
Animals and Society, School of Veterinary Medicine, University of Pennsylvania
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And if you want to read on...many More links here




This is a reading list of articles and papers by Veterinarians, breed clubs, trainers and others on the pros and cons of neutering or spaying your dog that I have found helpful and very educational. Most are based on extensive Veterinary research and also provide references you can check further. If you are wrestling with the question of when or whether to neuter/spay these may help. They do not all agree and one is even a rebuttal of another. One is a link to a radio show interview. One is a link to a medical testosterone suppressant not yet available in N. America but is in the U.K. and Australia. Some are not easy reading.

I think I personally found the first two in the list to be of most help and I appreciated the non-biased way the information was presented. The list is in no particular order, articles were simply added as I discovered them. If the links are not clickable I have tried to include the name of the paper and author in case you have to search for them. I hope this helps folks out and good luck with your decision. A tip, I went to my Vet to discuss the first two articles with her.

http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongT...uterInDogs.pdf
Long-Term Health Risks and Benefits Associated with Spay / Neuter in Dogs
Laura J. Sanborn, M.S.
May 14, 2007

http://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/pdf...ma.231.11.1665
Determining the optimal age for gonadectomy of dogs and cats,
Margaret V. Root Kustritz, dvm, phd, dact

http://www.cdoca.org/downloads/files...20Behavior.pdf
Non-reproductive Effects of Spaying and Neutering on Behavior in Dogs
Deborah L. Duffy, Ph.D., and James A. Serpell, Ph.D., Center for the Interaction of
Animals and Society, School of Veterinary Medicine, University of Pennsylvania

http://www.savethedals.org/earlyneuter.htm
Veterinary "Review" Article on Neutering, with Implications for Dalmatian Stone-Formers Abstracted by Carroll H. Weiss
Study Group on Urinary Stones
Research Committee
Dalmatian Club of America

http://www.showdogsupersite.com/kenl...vet/neutr.html
NEUTERING MALE AND FEMALE DOGS
Mary C. Wakeman, D.V.M.
©2003 for BREEDERVET

http://www.littleriverlabs.com/neuter.htm
The Question Of Neutering and at what age
(Put together by Gregg Tonkin, Little River Labradors from postings by Pam Davol PHD and Chris Zink DVM, PhD, DACVP)

http://leerburg.com/pdf/neutering.pdf
Should You Neuter Your Dog?
Ed Frawley, Leerburg Kennels * words are l e e r b u r g.com and L e e r b u r g Kennels

http://www.traciehotchner.com/dt/fil...Villalobos.pdf
The Bond and Beyond for VPN December 2008
by Alice Villalobos
Will We Change on Early Spay-Neuter?

http://www.showdogsupersite.com/kenl...ionindogs.html
ISSUES REGARDING CASTRATION IN DOGS
Mary C. Wakeman, D.V.M.
©2003 for BREEDERVET

http://www.petresource.com/Articles%..._neutering.htm
New Views On Neutering
By Ruth Marrion, DVM

http://www.acc-d.org/2006%20Symposiu...ession%20I.pdf
Non-reproductive Effects of Spaying and Neutering
Proceedings of the Third International Symposium on Non-Surgical
Contraceptive Methods for Pet Population Control * www.acc-d.org
SESSION OVERVIEW - Dr. John Verstegen

http://www.peptech.com/HTML/Animal_H...n_general.html
A non-surgical method to suppress testosterone

http://prdupl02.ynet.co.il/ForumFiles_2/23999370.pdf
Pros and Cons of Neutering
E. Hardie
Department of Clinical Sciences, North Carolina State University, Raleigh, NC, USA.

http://www.doglistener.co.uk/neutering/rspca.shtml
RSPCA Admit to Spaying and Castrating Puppies AT SIX WEEKS OLD
Stan Rawlinson MTCBPT.MPAACT
Doglistener Behaviourist and Obedience Trainer

http://users.lavalink.com.au/theos/Spay-neuter.htm#vacc
Should I spay or should I no..? -- pros and cons of Spay-neuter
Hungarian Vizsla Health Resource

http://www.doglistener.co.uk/neuteri...eutering.shtml
Spaying and Castration (Neutering) Dogs and Cats A Stark Warning
Stan Rawlinson, a full time Dog Behaviourist and Obedience Trainer.

http://www.wholedognews.com/
Spay, Neuter, and Cancer: Revisiting and Old Trinity
Myrna Milani, BS, DVM

http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.html
Early Spay-Neuter Considerations for the Canine Athlete One Veterinarian's Opinion
© 2005 Chris Zink DVM, PhD, DACVP

http://www.columbusdogconnection.com...ebuttal%20.pdf
Rebuttal to "Early Spay-Neuter Considerations for the Canine Athlete"
Lisa M Howe, DVM, PhD, Dipl. ACVS Associate Professor, Small Animal Surgery Co-Chief
Surgical Sciences Sect Dept of Vet Small Animal Clinical Sci
College of Vet Med and Biom Sciences Texas A&M Univ College Station TX 77843

http://www.pluggd.tv/audio/channels/...episodes/4njnh
Dog Talk Show #96 Tracie Hotchner (10-18-200
Early spay/neuter may be harming our dogs! Hear Dr. Christine Zink, DVM, PhD, DAVCP on the physical benefits of delaying neutering and trainer Parvene Farhoody on how it can reduce aggression.

http://www.antrozoologisenteret.no/a.../art_breed.pdf
Effects of breed, sex, and neuter status on trainability in dogs
James A. Serpell* and Yuying Hsu+

http://users.skynet.be/fa242124/a-en...tion-dogs.html
Gonadectomy and behavior
Dr JoŽl Dehasse

http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/homep...lityReview.pdf
Temperament and personality in dogs (Canis familiaris): A review and evaluation of past research
Amanda C. Jones *, Samuel D. Gosling

http://www.skeptvet.com/index.php?p=...s-of-Neutering
Evaluating the Benefits and Risks of Neutering
The SkeptVet - the owner of this blog is not identified but the articles referenced are searchable.

http://www.petfinder.com/for-shelter...ay-neuter.html
Pediatric Spay/Neuter
Dr. Lila Miller, ASPCA

http://k9harmony.co.uk/spaying-and-castration/
Spaying and Castration - What Your Vet and the Rescue Centres May Not Tell You
Pauline Waller, member #178 Professional Association of Applied Canine Trainers, - articles referenced and searchable

http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/cgi-...ate#pid1123732
To Castrate or Not? - Interesting discussion regarding a young male targeted by an aggressive older male.

http://www.cdoca.org/downloads/files...20Behavior.pdf
Non-reproductive Effects of Spaying and Neutering on Behavior in Dogs
Deborah L. Duffy, Ph.D., and James A. Serpell, Ph.D., Center for the Interaction of
Animals and Society, School of Veterinary Medicine, University of Pennsylvania

http://www.2ndchance.info/spayneuter.htm
At What Age Should I Spay or Neuter My Dog or Cat?
What Are The Advantages And Disadvantages Of Neutering My Pet?
Revisiting The Idea Of Early-Age Neutering
Ron Hines DVM PhD 10/05/09

http://saveourdogs.net/category/health/
Articles and links to Veterinary organizations opposing mandatory spay/neuter

http://askdryin.com/blog/tag/dog-beh...n-spay-neuter/
Can Spaying Make Dog Behaviour Worse?
Sophia Yin, DVM, MS March 5, 2009

http://www.associationofanimalbehavi...neutering.html
The Effects of Spaying and Neutering on Canine Behaviour
James O'Heare, Based on section from Aggressive Behavior in Dogs, 2006,

http://www.petfriendlyworld.com/chat...ad.php?t=23096
The Behavioural Effects of Canine Castration
Hazel Palmer, 1993 See post #8 in the chat forum at Pet Friendly World.

http://www.cdoca.org/downloads/files...20Behavior.pdf
Does Spaying and Neutering Reduce Aggression?
Dr. Polley DVM, 2001 American Dog Breeders Association

http://www.gpmcf.org/respectovaries.html
A Healthier Respect for Ovaries (in dogs)
David J. Waters, DVM, PhD, Diplomate ACVS
Director, Center for Exceptional Longevity Studies
Gerald P. Murphy Cancer Foundation

http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2009b/0...nResearch.html
Message for women and dogs: keeping ovaries is linked to longevity
To the Purdue Research Park, http://www.purdueresearchpark.com

http://www.rockllewellinsetters.com/...talDec2009.pdf
Exploring mechanisms of sex differences in longevity: lifetime ovary exposure and exceptional longevity in dogs
David J. Waters,1,2 Seema S. Kengeri,1 Beth Clever,1 Julie A. Booth,1 Aimee H. Maras,1 Deborah L.
Schlittler1 and Michael G. Hayek3
http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/may09/090515j.asp
AVMA: Mandatory spay/neuter a bad idea
Javma News, May 15, 2009

http://www.pet-informed-veterinary-a...neutering.html
Veterinary Advice Online: Male Dog Neutering

http://www.pet-informed-veterinary-a...g-spaying.html
Veterinary advice Online: Dog Spaying (Spaying a Female Dog)
Dr. Shauna O'Meara Pet Informed: http://www.pet-informed-veterinary-a...com/index.html

http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.c...114-7/abstract
Breed differences in canine aggression 1, Dec. 2008
Deborah L. Duffy, Yuying Hsub, James A. Serpella

http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/11/11/1434.full
Endogenous Gonadal Hormone Exposure and Bone Sarcoma Risk
Dawn M. Cooley, Benjamin C. Beranek, Deborah L. Schlittler, Nita W. Glickman, Lawrence T. Glickman, and David J. Waters

http://www.stbernardhealth.co.uk/pyometrainthebitch.htm
Pyometra in the Bitch
Jenny King

http://www.akcchf.org/news-events/mu...nd-neuter.html
Early Spay and neuter.
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